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Ethan
1 year ago

I just wanted to comment on your website my friend and to refute what you are saying because you are wrong in your own reasoning.

To address your own argument about Christians claiming Jesus said not to work for money in John 6:27, this is not the verse where Jesus said we cannot work for God and money at the same time. This is a verse on Jesus saying not to labor for food, but rather depend on him for daily bread just as birds do.

The verse where Jesus said we cannot not work for God and money at the same time is in Matthew 6:24 and Luke 16:13. Here it is.

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”

When someone serves money, they are working for it, people don’t literally bow down and “worship money” as some church goers like to try and say that this is what Jesus was saying.

Paul said “don’t you know who ever you are obeying, you are serving?”

Romans 6:16-18
Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?

Also to address your second point about Jesus not telling anyone to live by faith is completely wrong. It’s almost like you are just completely backwards on everything Jesus taught purposefully. Here are many verses where Paul tells us to live by faith.

Romans 1:16-17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38. All of these verses talk about Christians living by faith. Also Jesus said don’t worry about where you will get your clothes, food or even worry about tomorrow, the birds don’t have jobs, the flowers don’t make their own clothing, why should you worry about it all? Can’t God himself take care of you, oh you of little faith?

Your Form – “Jesus Himself did not forsake Mary”

My Refute: Yes he did, did you never read in the scriptures that Jesus ignored his mother when she desired to see him while he was teaching to the followers and that he told his followers that the ones who listen to him are his family? Obviously Mary (at the time) was more concerned about making sure Jesus was alright and talking with him. Read it for yourself.

In Matthew 12:46-50, when Jesus’ mother and brothers sought to speak with him, he responded to those who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” and, looking to his disciples, said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

Your Form – “We also know that all the disciples who left all to follow Jesus never sold their houses or became homeless.”

Why would you straight up lie about this? There is heaps of evidence contrary to what your saying. Here is proof that the first Christians sold everything and followed Christ. I am not saying they never bought anything again, or even rented houses, they had those things in Acts. But they all forsook private ownership of their things and shared all with anyone who had need.

Selling All verses- Luke 11:41, 12:33, 14:33, 18:22 This was addressed to the Pharisees, the Apostles, the rich young ruler and the thousands of Christians who lived by faith in Acts.

Acts 2:44-45 and Acts 4:32-35. The first Christians selling everything.

Did you also forget that all the 12 Apostles left their jobs and preached the rest of their life until death? They lived off the gospels and provision from God, not working for money, they didn’t have time for that. Paul said “Don’t become slaves of men, for you were bought with a price!”
(1 Corinthians 7:23) He never encouraged working for money.

Feel free to comment about the refutes, after all, once you see this you can’t un-see it and you are responsible for obeying Jesus. By the way the word “WHOSOEVER” is a word that’s applied to anyone and everyone. Just like John 3:16 when it uses the word “whosoever.”